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Of course you don't get and you never will unless you are african american........this is a very historial thing...........something that most of us never thought we would be alive to see...........our ancestors were treated like animals for years in this country and not allowed to have the same liberties as whites and now it has come full circle and its a very monumental thing.

Huh...maybe like how the Irish were treated in the coal mines or the Chinese on the rail roads or the Polish in the steel mills or how Korean grocers are treated now in "Black" neighborhoods. Cry me a River - it was long time ago, just about everyone can trance their ancestry back to some form of slavery or servitude. Face it - Oprah is a racist and this is just more evidence of it.

Tori, I think I understand what this means for african americans. And it is an important historical precedent. And all Americans would love to celebrate it with them. But, a lot of Americans find it very difficult to celebrate when it is so clear that BO and his wife despise white Americans and do not value (or even understand) the ideas and principles upon which America is founded.

why do you find oprah racist????

I just happen to think she's racist.

I find her to be condescending to whites. I've heard her make remarks that, had a white person made the remark, blacks would have said they were racist. I've seen her engage in activities and behave in ways that, had the races been reversed, would have resulted in accusations of racism.

Honestly, I don't know whether she's a racist or not. But, if we're going to define standards for what constitutes racism then we must apply them equally to both races or they are not standards. Double standards are, by definition, a fallacy of logic.

How can you call her racist???? To me you all are the ones that are racist.........you can't stand that someone african american is in such a position of power.

Oh my god if you hear about blacks commiting crimes we are no god animals, but if we educate ourselves and do good deeds like oprah then we are racist..........get over yourselves.........whites have been helping whites for centuries no now you have your hand out for wanting more????

Actually, Tori whites have been helping blacks forever! Subsidized housing, welfare, free access to college, HUD etc Why don't you all start taking CARE of yourselves!

You're probably not aware of this because the lib media didn't play it up much, but Africa loved Bush and Bush gave more aid to Africa than any other US President. Here are a couple of articles:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/30/AR2006123000941.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/popular-in-africa-bush-has-given-more-aid-than-any-other-us-president-783387.html

If you don't trust me and think they're biased (although both are lib sources) just google "Bush african aid". You'll see lots of articles on it.

Tori, Butterfield's complaint is that blacks are *not* educating themselves, they are making others educate them. And they are doing it at the expense of more qualified non-blacks.

That's what affirmative action is - it's a system that says, "Black people don't have what it takes to get into college and succeed there on their own, so we'll give them special treatment and reserve some college seats just for them even if they don't have the qualifications to make it on their own."

What if the NBA had affirmative action for white players? What if the NBA said, "All you little short white guys, we'll spot you 20 points per game." Or maybe, "We'll only allow black players into the NBA if they're under 5'9" and wear 15 lb weights on their ankles." Wouldn't that seem unfair to you? Don't you see how it would change the game? Make it less about excellence and more about appeasing cry babies? Don't you see why white people would be embarrassed to play in an NBA that had those rules?

Frankly, if I were black I'd be embarrassed by affirmative action.

Like oprah is doing??? then you start to critize that we are racist because we are helping our own kind.........and let me tell you something ...........there are more whites on wefare than blacks.

Of course there are - there are more whites than blacks! This sort of logic is what's so frustrating to whites.

Look, I don't care what Oprah does. I just want the same standards to apply to everyone regardless of race. Isn't that what MLK stood for?

What makes oprah racist???? Because she helps black people??? well isn't that what you all want??? of course not because that will only make us stronger and heaven knows thats not what "america" wants

If you think that the likes of Oprah will make blacks stronger, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you!

Its the first time we have ever had a "Black" president............and of course it doesn't mean anything to white america............for years you have had other "white"presidents so its no big deal but it is to the black community.

It's not about black or white. What's so infuriating to many of us (some blacks included) is that so many people (including a lot of white libs) think the color of a person's skin is so important. We were supposed to have gotten over that decades ago. Meanwhile, the country is crashing because we've elected a socialist.

I would have voted for Michael Steel over any dem who ran in '08, black or white.

It's not about race!

I respect your view point bob and I agree that we should have gotten over it along time ago but by the comments on here we are far from over it.

For years white people have had other white people to emulate and look up too and I think its great that oprah celebrates black entertainers that have paved the way for today's african american celebrities........I want to children to know what those people had to fight against to get to where they were..........its so said that by the comments things haven't really changed in people's hearts...........you all are so racist and full of hate.

Yes Tori, try reading a wee bit more history. EVERY group has had their struggle, their servitude, their fight against prejudice. Except, these groups didn't have Federal laws passed assigning quotas for them or preferential treatment from colleges or universities or a myriad of other "unfair" measures. Get off it. I know you are conditioned to see racists behind every tree, but maybe you should open your eyes and realize the vast majority - DON"T GIVE A CRAP about your color. The only one that seems to care is you. For the record, it is not HATE if anyone disagrees with you or Oprah or Mr. Obama. You might get better discourse if you eliminate that from your thinking.

Whites see a lot of what blacks say and do as hypocritical. Example: MLK says, "... the content of your character, not the color of your skin ...". But then we see things like affirmative action, that are based solely on the color of one's skin, it's impossible to come to any other conclusion but that the response to MLK is hypocritical. (Not being black, I can't say how black people think about it. But, being hypocritical is the kiss of death to most whites because it violates things whites value like one's word, one's integrity, one's honor. Once those things are violated the violator no longer has any credibility in the eyes of most whites.)

Whites don't care whether the president is black or white. They only care whether he's any good or not. But, it appears to whites that blacks don't care whether he's any good or not. Only whether he's black or white.

The question of whether he's "any good" is a much larger question. But whites feel that we can never get to that question in discussions with blacks because we can never get past the race thing.

agree

grammom, one minor point - FOX news doesn't claim to be unbiased. They claim to be fair and balanced. They have libs on to represent the lib view. But, everyone on FOX is perfectly up front and open about their political persuasion. UNlike the "mainstream media", which claims to be "unbiased and objective". (Actually, even the msm has backed off their claim of being "unbiased" since research has shown that they are comprised of 90+% registered dems.)